Nursing mama's I need some help!!!!1 [Archive]

mommiematters

04-16-2004 Friday, 03:37 PM

Load up on the lanolin. And it is hurts that much then just nurse on the one side till it heals. Then go back to nursing on that side. Your milk may decrease a little in the one breast but with the trauma to it already it is probably already decreasing. Are you treating your babe's mouth with the GV also?? If not you need to.

http://www.breastfeeding-basics.com/html/candida.htm
http://www.lalecheleague.org/FAQ/thrush.html

Using Gentian Violet
We believe that gentian violet (combined with "all purpose nipple ointment", see Treatments for Problems handout #24) is the best treatment of nipple soreness due to Candida albicans for the breastfeeding mother. This is because it usually works, and relief is rapid. It is messy, and will stain clothing (actually, it usually will wash out), but not skin. The baby's lips will turn purple, but the purple will disappear after a few days. Gentian violet is available without prescription but is not available at all pharmacies. Call around before going out to get it.

About 10 ml (two teaspoons) of gentian violet is more than enough for an entire treatment.
Many mothers prefer doing the treatment just before bed so that they can keep their nipples exposed and not worry about staining their clothing. The baby should be undressed to his diaper, and the mother should be uncovered from the waist up. Gentian violet is messy.
Dip a clean ear swab (Q-tip) into the gentian violet.
Put the purple end of the ear swab into the baby's mouth and let him suck on the swab for a few seconds. The gentian violet usually spreads around the mouth quickly. If it does not, paint the inside of the mouth to cover as much of the inside of the cheeks and tongue as possible.
Put the baby to the breast. In this way, both the baby's mouth and your nipple are treated.
If, at the end of the feeding, you have a baby with a purple mouth, and two purple nipples, there is nothing more to do. If only one nipple is purple, paint the other one with the ear swab and the gentian violet. In this way, the treatment is finished in one go.
Repeat the treatment each day for three or four days, up to a week (see handout Candida Protocol for how long to use gentian violet).
There is often some relief within hours of the first treatment, and the pain is usually gone or virtually gone by the third day. If it is not, it is unlikely that Candida was the problem, though it seems Candida albicans is starting to show some resistance to gentian violet, as it already has to other antifungal agents. Of course, there may be more than one cause of nipple pain, but after three days the contribution to your pain caused by Candida albicans should be gone. However, if your pain is virtually gone after 3 or 4 days, but not completely, you can use gentian violet a few more days if necessary.
All artificial nipples that the baby uses should be boiled daily during the treatment, or well covered with gentian violet. Consider stopping artificial nipples.
There is no need to treat just because the baby has thrush in his mouth. The reason to treat is the mother's and/or the baby's discomfort. Babies, however, do not commonly seem to be bothered by thrush.
Uncommonly, babies who are treated with gentian violet develop sores in the mouth which may cause them to reject the breast. If this occurs, or if the baby is irritable while nursing, stop the gentian violet immediately, and contact the clinic. The sores clear up within 24 hours and the baby returns to feeding.
If the infection recurs, treatment can be repeated as above. But if the infection recurs a third time, a source of reinfection should be sought out. The source may be the mother who may be a carrier for the yeast (but may have no sign of infection elsewhere), or from artificial nipples the baby puts in his mouth. See the protocol for treating Candida.